[OU] Mail filters??

[Finnigann]

When upgrading to Opera 10, my mail filters didn't make the trip. Can I do
this manually?

[Larry]

I've asked this same question but have not received an answer. Maybe this
time?

Post by Finnigann
When upgrading to Opera 10, my mail filters didn't make the trip. Can I do
this manually?

[James Card]

Post by Larry
I've asked this same question but have not received an answer. Maybe
this time?

Post by Finnigann
When upgrading to Opera 10, my mail filters didn't make the trip. Can I
do this manually?

Mail filters cannot be imported. They are available only when you upgrade
an existing instance of Opera (rather than installing a new instance and
importing mail from the old instance). The reasons for this are technical
and detailed, and I'm not sure I've got the details right (it's been a few
years since the last time I had to struggle through the details for
myself).

The old mail index files know that filter XYZ includes message numbers 45,
97, 221, 904, and 3349 -- the problem is that those same messages don't
have (and it is practically impossible for them to have) the same message
numbers after being imported into the new instance. The old Opera instance
will always know which messages belong to that filter, but now your new
messages are not being stored there.

The best way forward (if you still have the old Opera version intact) may
be to uninstall the new version of Opera, which will leave behind the
messages you've collected in the new instance. Then you can import the new
messages (that were left behind after the uninstall) into your old Opera
version. Finally, install the new version of Opera again, making sure that
it installs into the same directory as the old version (using the Classic
version of the Opera installer makes this much easier); this will keep
your old message store *with its index files* intact and just add the new
messages to them. HOWEVER, if you've imported all the messages from your
old Opera into the new one and then try this you'll end up with duplicate
copies of all your old messages -- in that case you might try to delete
all the old messages you imported into the new Opera before uninstalling
the new version (and remember to empty the trash folder before
uninstalling), or install and learn to use a tool to de-dupe your mail
store like this one: <http://www.kmkorn.de/sw/mbx/en/mbxmerge.htm> (note
that this tool was written to handle Opera mail files from several
versions back, I'd look real carefully at what it does before attempting
to use on current Opera mail files). In any case it is likely to be a
messy business if you really must have the filters from your old Opera
instance.

[Finnigann]

Post by James Card

Post by Larry
I've asked this same question but have not received an answer. Maybe
this time?

Post by Finnigann
When upgrading to Opera 10, my mail filters didn't make the trip. Can I
do this manually?

Mail filters cannot be imported. They are available only when you upgrade
an existing instance of Opera (rather than installing a new instance and
importing mail from the old instance). The reasons for this are technical
and detailed, and I'm not sure I've got the details right (it's been a few
years since the last time I had to struggle through the details for
myself).

You will note that this an upgrade, not a new install. I used the default
directories each time.


Exhibit 'A'

c:\Users\finnigann\AppData\Roaming\Opera\Opera\mail

Exhibit 'B'

"c:\Users\finnigann\AppData\Roaming\Opera\Opera 10 Preview\mail"

Opera 10 install tool made the choice to install the mail into a NEW path.
They almost got it right. But as we who know computers, the difference
between almost right and right sia l the difference needed to upset
eveything.

Post by James Card
The old mail index files know that filter XYZ includes message numbers 45,
97, 221, 904, and 3349 -- the problem is that those same messages don't
have (and it is practically impossible for them to have) the same message
numbers after being imported into the new instance. The old Opera instance
will always know which messages belong to that filter, but now your new
messages are not being stored there.

This is odd [to me] I thought my filters were a set of rules I typed in so
that Opera would know which messages foes into which folder. The list of
rules is what I'm looking for. I have {had] a dim hope tht they would be
in TEXT format, but how ever they exist, I want to transplant 'em.

Post by James Card
The best way forward (if you still have the old Opera version intact) may

I do.

Post by James Card
be to uninstall the new version of Opera, which will leave behind the
messages you've collected in the new instance. Then you can import the new
messages (that were left behind after the uninstall) into your old Opera
version. Finally, install the new version of Opera again, making sure that
it installs into the same directory as the old version (using the Classic
version of the Opera installer makes this much easier); this will keep
your old message store *with its index files* intact and just add the new
messages to them.

Saddly this isn't my first attempt at installing version 10. I tried soon
after it was made availible for downloading.

The problems at that time prevented me from giving v10 a good going over.
They seemed to have fixed those problems (Congrats Opera coders!) But the
filter file (if one exists) needs to be found and transplanted too.



HOWEVER, if you've imported all the messages from your

Post by James Card
old Opera into the new one and then try this you'll end up with duplicate
copies of all your old messages -- in that case you might try to delete
all the old messages you imported into the new Opera before uninstalling
the new version (and remember to empty the trash folder before
uninstalling), or install and learn to use a tool to de-dupe your mail
store like this one: <http://www.kmkorn.de/sw/mbx/en/mbxmerge.htm> (note
that this tool was written to handle Opera mail files from several
versions back, I'd look real carefully at what it does before attempting
to use on current Opera mail files). In any case it is likely to be a
messy business if you really must have the filters from your old Opera
instance.

Getting the mail sorted out would be a priority of course. Sorting by date
might allow me to clean out dupes. I just *really* want my filters.

Wand information would be usefll too. Infact a good (re: better)
installation script is needed soon.

Now, I run two versions of opera. I have told v10 to NOT get mail, instead
I use it for Facebook. I use my older version for everything else. This is
not my first choice, but it works [mostly]

[Ledgem]

Hello everyone,

I'm using Opera 10.00 (build 6652) on Mac OS X 10.6.1 and am having a major problem with mail in Opera. Attempting to view certain emails causes Opera to hang. Opera must be force quit. The email never displays, either - Opera hangs before providing any output. Needless to say, this is preventing me from keeping my inbox clean, and most recently, it's preventing me from reading certain emails.

The only thing that seems to link the problematic emails together is that they are HTML-based (I strongly suspect, anyway - can't open to verify). The emails are from different, completely unrelated senders and to different mail accounts. However, not all HTML emails trigger this problem; it seems to be selective.

I have filed a bug report with Opera but can't do much beyond describing the issue. I'm very hopeful that Opera 10.10 will fix this problem, but at this point I'm desperate. Does anyone have any solutions or suggestions for this issue? Has anyone else encountered it?

Thanks,
David

[Ledgem]

Greetings everyone,

After many years of using Opera Mail as a standard email program, I'm attempting to use it the way that I believe it's intended to be used (regarding filters, labels, and other methods of sorting). However, I've noticed something strange: for some of my labels, emails are listed that do not have the corresponding label. I can't change the label, either.

For example, I have a few emails under the "Important" label. The most recent emails do have the "important" label given to them, and if I change or remove the label then those emails disappear from the "Important" group. However, I have some emails from a few years ago that do not have a label and they are also listed under the "Important" group. If I try to change their label to important, nothing happens. If I change their label to anything else then they get that label's icon, but clicking the label region to bring up the label menu shows that the diamond is still by "no label" (and trying to change the label to "Important" causes them to have no label, again).

While I've used the example from my "Important" emails, this same behavior applies to emails that are in any label group and that lack that label. It's likely that these emails had the label at some point, and for some reason - perhaps during a version upgrade, or an operating system switch - the label was removed, but they weren't removed from the group.

Also, while these emails are all pretty old (2005 and earlier) it is not the case that emails from that time can't be labeled. Deleting the email will remove it from the label group, but undeleting it returns it to the label group.

Does anyone know how I can get those unlabeled emails out of the label groups, without deleting them?

Thanks - hope everyone is having a great weekend!
David

[Julian]

Hello David,

Post by Ledgem
Greetings everyone,
After many years of using Opera Mail as a standard email program, I'm
attempting to use it the way that I believe it's intended to be used
(regarding filters, labels, and other methods of sorting). However, I've
noticed something strange: for some of my labels, emails are listed that
do not have the corresponding label. I can't change the label, either.
For example, I have a few emails under the "Important" label. The most
recent emails do have the "important" label given to them, and if I
change or remove the label then those emails disappear from the
"Important" group. However, I have some emails from a few years ago that
do not have a label and they are also listed under the "Important"
group. If I try to change their label to important, nothing happens. If
I change their label to anything else then they get that label's icon,
but clicking the label region to bring up the label menu shows that the
diamond is still by "no label" (and trying to change the label to
"Important" causes them to have no label, again).
While I've used the example from my "Important" emails, this same
behavior applies to emails that are in any label group and that lack
that label. It's likely that these emails had the label at some point,
and for some reason - perhaps during a version upgrade, or an operating
system switch - the label was removed, but they weren't removed from the
group.
Also, while these emails are all pretty old (2005 and earlier) it is not
the case that emails from that time can't be labeled. Deleting the email
will remove it from the label group, but undeleting it returns it to the
label group.
Does anyone know how I can get those unlabeled emails out of the label
groups, without deleting them?
Thanks - hope everyone is having a great weekend!
David