Discussion:
[OU] Opera and PDF files
Finnigann
2010-04-25 15:54:26 UTC
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Anyone finding Opera doesn't like it when you open PDFs? In my case, it
kills Opera after a couple of minutes. I have to save the file, then view
it.

On an old note: I have had to delete my cache folder twice so I can save
attachments. Deleting it does cure the problem. But it's not the first
choice here.
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Harry Lake
2010-04-25 21:33:18 UTC
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Post by Finnigann
Anyone finding Opera doesn't like it when you open PDFs? In my case,
it kills Opera after a couple of minutes. I have to save the file,
then view it.
I had a problem in that every time I opened a PDF in a separate tab,
when I closed the tab it only half-closed, the program hung, and I
had to terminate the proces using the Task Manager. I reported this
as a bug and the problem has now gone away in 10.52RC4 and 5.

HTH
Harry


Opera 10.52RC5, b. 3370 (23/4/10), Java 1.?, Windows XP Home SP2
(desktop, netbook)/Vista Home Premium (laptop), AVG Internet Security
Suite 9.0.814 professional, Eudora 7.1.0.9 paid (from 13/11/06),
WordPerfect X3 Professional build 13.0.0.565 (SP2), ClipMate 7.3.14,
build 223 (updated 4/2010), Process Tamer (v2.08.02; by
DonationCoder); 3 GB RAM(desktop)/1GB (netbook)/2GB (laptop), Pentium
4 @ 3.0 GHz since 6 October 2006 (desktop)(laptop: erm...). Latest
addition: Google Earth 4.2.0198.2451 (beta), 15 November 2007. Last
updated 23.4.10 Opera 10.52RC5.
Finnigann
2010-04-25 21:51:47 UTC
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Post by Harry Lake
Post by Finnigann
Anyone finding Opera doesn't like it when you open PDFs? In my case, it
kills Opera after a couple of minutes. I have to save the file, then
view it.
I had a problem in that every time I opened a PDF in a separate tab,
when I closed the tab it only half-closed, the program hung, and I had
to terminate the proces using the Task Manager. I reported this as a bug
and the problem has now gone away in 10.52RC4 and 5.
HTH
Harry
I searched for that upgrade but didn't get a hit. Can you post a link if
you still have it. Thanks
Post by Harry Lake
Opera 10.52RC5, b. 3370 (23/4/10), Java 1.?, Windows XP Home SP2
(desktop, netbook)/Vista Home Premium (laptop), AVG Internet Security
Suite 9.0.814 professional, Eudora 7.1.0.9 paid (from 13/11/06),
WordPerfect X3 Professional build 13.0.0.565 (SP2), ClipMate 7.3.14,
build 223 (updated 4/2010), Process Tamer (v2.08.02; by DonationCoder);
6 October 2006 (desktop)(laptop: erm...). Latest addition: Google Earth
4.2.0198.2451 (beta), 15 November 2007. Last updated 23.4.10 Opera
10.52RC5.
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73'S

DE KC8UGV

Remembering our Vets - Then and Now

HTTP://www.tinyurl.com/bcarc12

http://my.opera.com/Finnigann/blog

http://community.webshots.com/user/finnigann
Harry Lake
2010-04-25 22:02:04 UTC
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Post by Harry Lake
Post by Finnigann
Anyone finding Opera doesn't like it when you open PDFs? In my
case, it kills Opera after a couple of minutes. I have to save the
file, then view it.
I had a problem in that every time I opened a PDF in a separate tab,
when I closed the tab it only half-closed, the program hung, and I
had to terminate the proces using the Task Manager. I reported this
as a bug and the problem has now gone away in 10.52RC4 and 5.
HTH
Harry
I searched for that upgrade but didn't get a hit. Can you post a
link if you still have it. Thanks
It is only a Release Candidate but I think it's pretty safe. Read the
comments if you're worried about complications.

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/

Cheers,

Harry
Katrina Knight
2010-04-27 14:29:59 UTC
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Post by Harry Lake
Post by Finnigann
I searched for that upgrade but didn't get a hit. Can you post
a link if you still have it. Thanks
It is only a Release Candidate but I think it's pretty safe.
Read the comments if you're worried about complications.
http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/
10.52 for Windows and Mac has now been released -
<http://www.opera.com/browser/>
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Harry Lake
2010-04-27 15:34:27 UTC
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Post by Katrina Knight
Post by Harry Lake
Post by Finnigann
I searched for that upgrade but didn't get a hit. Can you post a
link if you still have it. Thanks
It is only a Release Candidate but I think it's pretty safe. Read
the comments if you're worried about complications.
http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/
10.52 for Windows and Mac has now been released -
<http://www.opera.com/browser/>
True, but it's the same build (3370) as RC5, unless they've forgotten
to change it under Help, About.

Harry

Rodger A Headifen
2010-04-26 03:40:58 UTC
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Hi,

Just a matter of interest is this problem running on the desktop computer
still using sp2, if so I would upgrade to sp3 and continue to work through
the problem ???
Post by Finnigann
Post by Harry Lake
Post by Finnigann
Anyone finding Opera doesn't like it when you open PDFs? In my case, it
kills Opera after a couple of minutes. I have to save the file, then
view it.
I had a problem in that every time I opened a PDF in a separate tab,
when I closed the tab it only half-closed, the program hung, and I had
to terminate the proces using the Task Manager. I reported this as a bug
and the problem has now gone away in 10.52RC4 and 5.
HTH
Harry
I searched for that upgrade but didn't get a hit. Can you post a link if
you still have it. Thanks
Post by Harry Lake
Opera 10.52RC5, b. 3370 (23/4/10), Java 1.?, Windows XP Home SP2
(desktop, netbook)/Vista Home Premium (laptop), AVG Internet Security
Suite 9.0.814 professional, Eudora 7.1.0.9 paid (from 13/11/06),
WordPerfect X3 Professional build 13.0.0.565 (SP2), ClipMate 7.3.14,
build 223 (updated 4/2010), Process Tamer (v2.08.02; by DonationCoder);
6 October 2006 (desktop)(laptop: erm...). Latest addition: Google Earth
4.2.0198.2451 (beta), 15 November 2007. Last updated 23.4.10 Opera
10.52RC5.
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Finnigann
2010-04-26 09:11:08 UTC
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On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 19:47:59 -0300, Rodger A Headifen
Post by Rodger A Headifen
Hi,
Just a matter of interest is this problem running on the desktop
computer still using sp2, if so I would upgrade to sp3 and continue to
work through the problem ???
I'm using Vista Home Pro(?) 64bit. As far as upgrades goes, I have
everything MS has cramed down my cable. I'm not sure if Spx applies any
more.
Post by Rodger A Headifen
Post by Finnigann
Post by Harry Lake
Post by Finnigann
Anyone finding Opera doesn't like it when you open PDFs? In my case, it
kills Opera after a couple of minutes. I have to save the file, then
view it.
I had a problem in that every time I opened a PDF in a separate tab,
when I closed the tab it only half-closed, the program hung, and I had
to terminate the proces using the Task Manager. I reported this as a bug
and the problem has now gone away in 10.52RC4 and 5.
Searching for that particular RC I find that it's for a MAC but nothing
for Windows machines <sigh>. Right now I have Opera 10.


Version
10.51

Build
3315

Platform
Win32

System
Windows NT 6.0
Post by Rodger A Headifen
Post by Finnigann
Post by Harry Lake
HTH
Harry
I searched for that upgrade but didn't get a hit. Can you post a link if
you still have it. Thanks
I wish it did - iwid
Post by Rodger A Headifen
Post by Finnigann
Post by Harry Lake
Opera 10.52RC5, b. 3370 (23/4/10), Java 1.?, Windows XP Home SP2
(desktop, netbook)/Vista Home Premium (laptop), AVG Internet Security
Suite 9.0.814 professional, Eudora 7.1.0.9 paid (from 13/11/06),
WordPerfect X3 Professional build 13.0.0.565 (SP2), ClipMate 7.3.14,
build 223 (updated 4/2010), Process Tamer (v2.08.02; by DonationCoder);
6 October 2006 (desktop)(laptop: erm...). Latest addition: Google Earth
4.2.0198.2451 (beta), 15 November 2007. Last updated 23.4.10 Opera
10.52RC5.
--Kind regards
Rodger
"Jesus is the life"
* http://www.bible.ca
* http://www.keytothekingdom.com
Grasshopper LLC Publishing - http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows
--
73'S

DE KC8UGV

Remembering our Vets - Then and Now

HTTP://www.tinyurl.com/bcarc12

http://my.opera.com/Finnigann/blog

http://community.webshots.com/user/finnigann
Harry Lake
2010-04-26 09:48:24 UTC
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At 10:10 26-4-2010 CEST, Finnigann wrote:
...
Post by Finnigann
Post by Harry Lake
I had a problem in that every time I opened a PDF in a separate tab,
when I closed the tab it only half-closed, the program hung, and I had
to terminate the proces using the Task Manager. I reported this as a bug
and the problem has now gone away in 10.52RC4 and 5.
Searching for that particular RC I find that it's for a MAC but
nothing for Windows machines <sigh>.
I beg your pardon? And why are you still searching for an RC when I
have given you the link to the Opera desktop team blog ( here it is
again: http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/ ), where it clearly
states in un mistakably clear large and bold text: 'Windows and Mac
RC5', followed by 'Here is a further RC5 for Windows and Mac'...?

Harry
Finnigann
2010-04-26 09:54:31 UTC
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...
Post by Finnigann
Post by Harry Lake
I had a problem in that every time I opened a PDF in a separate tab,
when I closed the tab it only half-closed, the program hung, and I had
to terminate the proces using the Task Manager. I reported this as a bug
and the problem has now gone away in 10.52RC4 and 5.
Searching for that particular RC I find that it's for a MAC but nothing
for Windows machines <sigh>.
I beg your pardon? And why are you still searching for an RC when I have
http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/ ), where it clearly states in un
mistakably clear large and bold text: 'Windows and Mac RC5', followed by
'Here is a further RC5 for Windows and Mac'...?
Harry
Sorry, I blew right past it. Totally my error. D/Ling right now.
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73'S

DE KC8UGV

Remembering our Vets - Then and Now

HTTP://www.tinyurl.com/bcarc12

http://my.opera.com/Finnigann/blog

http://community.webshots.com/user/finnigann
Harry Lake
2010-04-26 10:19:41 UTC
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Post by Harry Lake
...
Post by Finnigann
Post by Harry Lake
I had a problem in that every time I opened a PDF in a separate tab,
when I closed the tab it only half-closed, the program hung, and I had
to terminate the proces using the Task Manager. I reported this as a bug
and the problem has now gone away in 10.52RC4 and 5.
Searching for that particular RC I find that it's for a MAC but
nothing for Windows machines <sigh>.
I beg your pardon? And why are you still searching for an RC when I
have given you the link to the Opera desktop team blog ( here it is
again: http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/ ), where it clearly
states in un mistakably clear large and bold text: 'Windows and Mac
RC5', followed by 'Here is a further RC5 for Windows and Mac'...?
Harry
Sorry, I blew right past it. Totally my error. D/Ling right now.
Of course, you realize I can give no gurantee that it will put an end
to your problem... :-)

Harry
David Hayward
2010-04-26 21:42:11 UTC
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Of course, you realize I can give no gurantee that it will put an end to
your problem... :-)
Harry
It hasn't for me. I've had problems with pdf files since the first 10.50
build I tried and even the latest RC5 (build 3370) hasn't fixed it. If I
accidentally click a pdf file link the tab locks up, the cursor spins, then
the window dims, then the crash logger comes up. Seems like it's some kind
of inf. loop somewhere in the pdf handling code. At first I always thought
it was because I use Fox-It, but now I'm starting to think that it's just
Opera. I should probably submit the results from the crash log, but I don't
really look at pdf files often enough to make me remember to do it.

Regards,
David Hayward.
Harry Lake
2010-04-26 22:56:39 UTC
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On 26 April 2010 11:19, Harry Lake
Of course, you realize I can give no gurantee that it will put an
end to your problem... :-)
Harry
It hasn't for me. I've had problems with pdf files since the first
10.50 build I tried and even the latest RC5 (build 3370) hasn't
fixed it. If I accidentally click a pdf file link the tab locks up,
the cursor spins, then the window dims, then the crash logger comes
up. Seems like it's some kind of inf. loop somewhere in the pdf
handling code. At first I always thought it was because I use
Fox-It, but now I'm starting to think that it's just Opera. I should
probably submit the results from the crash log, but I don't really
look at pdf files often enough to make me remember to do it.
I really don't think it can be 'just Opera'. Far more people would be
having this kind of problem if it were. I think there must be some
kind of conflict with some other program you have installed. I'm no
expert in these matters, but the thought occurs to me that you may be
using some other PDF reader than the Adobe program. IKf so, try
disabling it. What program, for example, is set as the default
program for opening PDFs? Try changing the default to Adobe to see
what happens.

HTH

Harry
Finnigann
2010-04-27 02:19:35 UTC
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Post by Harry Lake
Post by David Hayward
It hasn't for me. I've had problems with pdf files since the first
10.50 build I tried and even the latest RC5 (build 3370) hasn't fixed
it. If I accidentally click a pdf file link the tab locks up, the
cursor spins, then the window dims, then the crash logger comes up.
Seems like it's some kind of inf. loop somewhere in the pdf handling
code. At first I always thought it was because I use Fox-It, but now
I'm starting to think that it's just Opera. I should probably submit
the results from the crash log, but I don't really look at pdf files
often enough to make me remember to do it.
I really don't think it can be 'just Opera'. Far more people would be
having this kind of problem if it were. I think there must be some kind
of conflict with some other program you have installed. I'm no expert in
these matters, but the thought occurs to me that you may be using some
other PDF reader than the Adobe program. IKf so, try disabling it. What
program, for example, is set as the default program for opening PDFs?
Try changing the default to Adobe to see what happens.
If I am IN Opera, and I click on a link to a PDF file OR open an PDF
attachment, And Opera closes without a any warning or error message, that
is strong evidense it's got something to do with Opera.



In my case I have Adobe installed and I have CutePDF Adobe is the reader
in Opera. There is no mistaking the two utils.

I'm using Vista Home edition 64bit, on an AMD CPU. I can't begin to list
installed programs. All I can say (that might be helpful) is that it was
working prior to 10x.

Just how helpful are those crash reports? I mean I fear I'm gonna crash
their server with all of my reports (ok a bit of an exaggeration).
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Remembering our Vets - Then and Now

HTTP://www.tinyurl.com/bcarc12

http://my.opera.com/Finnigann/blog

http://community.webshots.com/user/finnigann
John Silby
2010-04-27 06:03:45 UTC
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I never open pdf files in the browser - that's always been a pain whatever
browser I use. Rather than open them inside the browser, I always either
open them with the default pdf reader, or download them to open later.

Try looking in the options in the pdf reader you're using. See if there's
a checkbox option to "open pdf in browser" or something similar. For
example, I use Foxit Reader. In preferences > Internet > Web Browser
Options there's a checkbox "Display PDF in browser". If I recall
correctly, Adobe Reader has a similar option. I haven't used Adobe for
years - I got sick it's bloat and inefficiency.

If you feel you have to have pdf files displaying inside the browser, then
I fear you might always have problems - whether you're using Opera or
another browser.

John
Post by Harry Lake
On 26 April 2010 11:19, Harry Lake
Of course, you realize I can give no gurantee that it will put an
end to your problem... :-)
Harry
It hasn't for me. I've had problems with pdf files since the first
10.50 build I tried and even the latest RC5 (build 3370) hasn't
fixed it. If I accidentally click a pdf file link the tab locks up,
the cursor spins, then the window dims, then the crash logger comes
up. Seems like it's some kind of inf. loop somewhere in the pdf
handling code. At first I always thought it was because I use
Fox-It, but now I'm starting to think that it's just Opera. I should
probably submit the results from the crash log, but I don't really
look at pdf files often enough to make me remember to do it.
I really don't think it can be 'just Opera'. Far more people would be
having this kind of problem if it were. I think there must be some
kind of conflict with some other program you have installed. I'm no
expert in these matters, but the thought occurs to me that you may be
using some other PDF reader than the Adobe program. IKf so, try
disabling it. What program, for example, is set as the default
program for opening PDFs? Try changing the default to Adobe to see
what happens.
HTH
Harry
Harry Lake
2010-04-27 08:40:19 UTC
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Post by John Silby
I never open pdf files in the browser - that's always been a pain whatever
browser I use. Rather than open them inside the browser, I always either
open them with the default pdf reader, or download them to open later.
I always open PDF files in the browser. For me, it's a great
convenience. Sometimes I save a copy, sometimes I don't - it all
depends. It has been only with 10.51 that I've had the problem I
described, and it has now been resolved for me. This applies to all
three computers: desktop and netbook under XP and laptop under Vista HP.

Harry
p***@croatiapropertyservices.com
2010-04-27 09:59:47 UTC
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Post by Harry Lake
I always open PDF files in the browser. For me, it's a great
convenience. Sometimes I save a copy, sometimes I don't - it all
depends. It has been only with 10.51 that I've had the problem I
described, and it has now been resolved for me. This applies to all
three computers: desktop and netbook under XP and laptop under Vista HP.
Harry
Do you know how you cured it?

I'm using XP Pro and Foxit and had the same problem for several months
before it apparently fixed itself.

Cheers

Peter
Harry Lake
2010-04-27 10:17:46 UTC
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Post by p***@croatiapropertyservices.com
Post by Harry Lake
I always open PDF files in the browser. For me, it's a great
convenience. Sometimes I save a copy, sometimes I don't - it all
depends. It has been only with 10.51 that I've had the problem I
described, and it has now been resolved for me. This applies to all
three computers: desktop and netbook under XP and laptop under Vista HP.
Harry
Do you know how you cured it?
Ah, now we've started going round in circles... ;-)

I 'cured' it by installing the first 10.52RC...

Mind you, my problem was slightly different: Opera froze when I
closed a PDF tab. Then I could apparently close the program down but
although it appeared to have gone, it hadn't and I had to end the
process by using the Task Manager.
Post by p***@croatiapropertyservices.com
I'm using XP Pro and Foxit and had the same problem for several months
before it apparently fixed itself.
I don't use Foxit.

When did it fix itself for you?

Harry
David Hayward
2010-04-27 09:04:59 UTC
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Post by Harry Lake
I really don't think it can be 'just Opera'. Far more people would be
having this kind of problem if it were. I think there must be some kind of
conflict with some other program you have installed. I'm no expert in these
matters, but the thought occurs to me that you may be using some other PDF
reader than the Adobe program. IKf so, try disabling it. What program, for
example, is set as the default program for opening PDFs? Try changing the
default to Adobe to see what happens.
Hi Harry,

I know I've read about more people having pdf related problems in the
comments on the blog posts for the various beta builds and the RC's that
have come out recently. As Finnigann mentions, everything worked fine in
9.xx and 10.00/02, it's the 10.5x versions that have been causing problems.
I use Foxit Reader and it worked before 10.50, didn't work after that, even
uninstalling Foxit and installing a newer version to see if it was Foxit
causing it to crash.

I won't try Adobe as I've never liked its attempts to take over everything
(ie. all the hidden update programs set to run at start-up). If it worked
before 10.5x then it's a problem with Opera's handling of pdf files. I now
just changed it to always open in the external program, but it still doesn't
fix the underlying problem.

Regards,
David.
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