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[OU] 10.51 problems, js and redirection
m***@att.net
2010-04-12 14:04:06 UTC
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Hi all,
I'm sorry if these issues have already been addressed, but I did check the mail archives and posted in Opera users forums (with no reply).
I've just upgraded Opera to 10.51 from 9.x on XP machines both at home and at work.  Work machine initially had some minor issues that seemed to work themselves out, but home machine's Opera is still sick.
On some sites, eBay in particular, I have to turn off javascript after logging in to get a page to load completely(which eBay then gripes about).  I tried various things, and finally removed, then reinstalled 10.51, but nothing changed.
Also, it appears that 10.51 has a new feature that's causing me grief, which would be the caching of redirection information.  If a particular link results in a redirection, Opera is now retaining that association even if the redirect target changes.  I've had to turn off automatic redirection altogether (which is a pain) because I couldn't find a way to turn off just this redirection "memory".
The fact that one machine's installation is okay, and the other is broke leads me to believe it was something I've done, but both machines are kept up-to-date with the latest service packs, hotfixes, etc. and I initially "upgraded" both as opposed to a fresh install.
Any hints would be greatly appreciated.   Thanks,   -mark
Harry Lake
2010-04-12 14:47:38 UTC
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Post by m***@att.net
Hi all,
I'm sorry if these issues have already been addressed, but I did
check the mail archives and posted in Opera users forums (with no reply).
I've just upgraded Opera to 10.51 from 9.x on XP machines both at
home and at work. Â Work machine initially had some minor issues
that seemed to work themselves out, but home machine's Opera is still sick.
On some sites, eBay in particular, I have to turn off javascript
after logging in to get a page to load completely(which eBay then
gripes about). Â I tried various things, and finally removed, then
reinstalled 10.51, but nothing changed.
Also, it appears that 10.51 has a new feature that's causing me
grief, which would be the caching of redirection information. Â If a
particular link results in a redirection, Opera is now retaining
that association even if the redirect target changes. Â I've had to
turn off automatic redirection altogether (which is a pain) because
I couldn't find a way to turn off just this redirection "memory".
The fact that one machine's installation is okay, and the other is
broke leads me to believe it was something I've done, but both
machines are kept up-to-date with the latest service packs,
hotfixes, etc. and I initially "upgraded" both as opposed to a fresh install.
Any hints would be greatly appreciated. Â Thanks, Â -mark
An expert will be along in a minute, no doubt. Meanwhile: I haven't
heard of these probs before (could be just me not paying attn
though). Have you checked your firewall settings?

HTH
Harry
Bart Hansen
2010-04-12 21:12:51 UTC
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With 10.51 I have to keep hitting the Fit to Width button to get
several sites to load completely. This was never necessary with any
previous release. Do your two machines have the same display parms?

Bart
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Post by m***@att.net
Hi all,
I'm sorry if these issues have already been addressed, but I did check the
mail archives and posted in Opera users forums (with no reply).
I've just upgraded Opera to 10.51 from 9.x on XP machines both at home and
at work.  Work machine initially had some minor issues that seemed to work
themselves out, but home machine's Opera is still sick.
On some sites, eBay in particular, I have to turn off javascript after
logging in to get a page to load completely(which eBay then gripes about).
 I tried various things, and finally removed, then reinstalled 10.51, but
nothing changed.
Also, it appears that 10.51 has a new feature that's causing me grief, which
would be the caching of redirection information.  If a particular link
results in a redirection, Opera is now retaining that association even if
the redirect target changes.  I've had to turn off automatic redirection
altogether (which is a pain) because I couldn't find a way to turn off just
this redirection "memory".
The fact that one machine's installation is okay, and the other is broke
leads me to believe it was something I've done, but both machines are kept
up-to-date with the latest service packs, hotfixes, etc. and I initially
"upgraded" both as opposed to a fresh install.
Any hints would be greatly appreciated.   Thanks,   -mark
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David Hayward
2010-04-12 23:57:16 UTC
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Post by m***@att.net
Hi all,
I'm sorry if these issues have already been addressed, but I did check the
mail archives and posted in Opera users forums (with no reply).
I've just upgraded Opera to 10.51 from 9.x on XP machines both at home and
at work. Work machine initially had some minor issues that seemed to work
themselves out, but home machine's Opera is still sick.
On some sites, eBay in particular, I have to turn off javascript after
logging in to get a page to load completely(which eBay then gripes about).
I tried various things, and finally removed, then reinstalled 10.51, but
nothing changed.
Also, it appears that 10.51 has a new feature that's causing me grief,
which would be the caching of redirection information. If a particular link
results in a redirection, Opera is now retaining that association even if
the redirect target changes. I've had to turn off automatic redirection
altogether (which is a pain) because I couldn't find a way to turn off just
this redirection "memory".
The fact that one machine's installation is okay, and the other is broke
leads me to believe it was something I've done, but both machines are kept
up-to-date with the latest service packs, hotfixes, etc. and I initially
"upgraded" both as opposed to a fresh install.
Any hints would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, -mark
Hi,

I know it's not much in the way of specific help, but try 10.52 instead. I
had quite a few crashing problems with 10.51 and the majority of them have
been fixed in 10.52. 10.52 also featured more core fixes for sites, which
might help.
Harry Lake
2010-04-13 11:15:00 UTC
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On 12 April 2010
Hi all,
I'm sorry if these issues have already been addressed, but I did
check the mail archives and posted in Opera users forums (with no reply).
I've just upgraded Opera to 10.51 from 9.x on XP machines both at
home and at work. Work machine initially had some minor issues that
seemed to work themselves out, but home machine's Opera is still sick.
On some sites, eBay in particular, I have to turn off javascript
after logging in to get a page to load completely(which eBay then
gripes about). I tried various things, and finally removed, then
reinstalled 10.51, but nothing changed.
Also, it appears that 10.51 has a new feature that's causing me
grief, which would be the caching of redirection information. If a
particular link results in a redirection, Opera is now retaining
that association even if the redirect target changes. I've had to
turn off automatic redirection altogether (which is a pain) because
I couldn't find a way to turn off just this redirection "memory".
The fact that one machine's installation is okay, and the other is
broke leads me to believe it was something I've done, but both
machines are kept up-to-date with the latest service packs,
hotfixes, etc. and I initially "upgraded" both as opposed to a fresh install.
Any hints would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, -mark
Hi,
I know it's not much in the way of specific help, but try 10.52
instead. I had quite a few crashing problems with 10.51 and the
majority of them have been fixed in 10.52. 10.52 also featured more
core fixes for sites, which might help.
Hmmm, interesting. One thing stopping me using 10.52 is that one of
the known issues is precisely the problem I have of the program
crashing on closing a tab. This happens to me two or three times a
day. I can still close the program apparently normally, but the
process isn't closed and I have to do that manually through the Task Manager.

Cheers,
Harry
David Hayward
2010-04-13 14:05:15 UTC
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Hmmm, interesting. One thing stopping me using 10.52 is that one of the
known issues is precisely the problem I have of the program crashing on
closing a tab. This happens to me two or three times a day. I can still
close the program apparently normally, but the process isn't closed and I
have to do that manually through the Task Manager.
Hi,

My crashing problems are literally the opposite. I'd open some tabs in the
background (more specifically, Facebook news feed pages) and it would crash.
Happened at least once every three clicks, but some times every time I
clicked. I've never once had a problem with closing tabs.

I don't remember manually updating to 10.52 (build 3337 - should have
mentioned that in my first reply), but I guess I did. One day it was
crashing all the time, the next day it didn't crash. Now it will crash maybe
once every few days, but it has definitely got better.

Regards,
David.
Finnigann
2010-04-13 17:52:39 UTC
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Post by David Hayward
Hmmm, interesting. One thing stopping me using 10.52 is that one of the
known issues is precisely the problem I have of the program crashing on
closing a tab. This happens to me two or three times a day. I can still
close the program apparently normally, but the process isn't closed and
I have to do that manually through the Task Manager.
Hi,
My crashing problems are literally the opposite. I'd open some tabs in
the background (more specifically, Facebook news feed pages) and it
would crash. Happened at least once every three clicks, but some times
every time I clicked. I've never once had a problem with closing tabs.
I don't remember manually updating to 10.52 (build 3337 - should have
mentioned that in my first reply), but I guess I did. One day it was
crashing all the time, the next day it didn't crash. Now it will crash
maybe once every few days, but it has definitely got better.
Regards,
David.
I can't find the link to 10.52, can you supply it?

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Katrina Knight
2010-04-13 18:24:21 UTC
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Post by Finnigann
I can't find the link to 10.52, can you supply it?
If you're interested in running pre-release versions of Opera,
you might want to read the Desktop Team's blog. The entry with
the links to the most recent snapshot build is here
<http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/new-snapshot-focus-on-nsl-and-cache>
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John Silby
2010-04-13 15:14:40 UTC
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Which flavour of Opera are you guys using? I can't see any mention of
10.52 anywhere; I'm using 10.51, build 3315. It's the International
version, however, so that might not be as up-to-date as the US English
version.

Anyway, I haven't had any of the problems you guys mention. I haven't had
an Opera crash for ages.

John
Post by Harry Lake
Hmmm, interesting. One thing stopping me using 10.52 is that one of
the known issues is precisely the problem I have of the program
crashing on closing a tab. This happens to me two or three times a
day. I can still close the program apparently normally, but the
process isn't closed and I have to do that manually through the Task Manager.
Cheers,
Harry
Harry Lake
2010-04-13 17:20:27 UTC
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Post by John Silby
Which flavour of Opera are you guys using? I can't see any mention of
10.52 anywhere; I'm using 10.51, build 3315. It's the International
version, however, so that might not be as up-to-date as the US English
version.
You can read about 10.52, which is a 'development snapshot', at
http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/

I am loth to try anything with a great big red warning like that
because I fear I don't possess the knowledge to get out of any
trouble it might cause. (Though I suppose restore points, or whatever
they're called, have pretty much eliminated the risks.) I am also too
lazy to keep backing up the stuff they recommend... :-(

Harry
John Silby
2010-04-13 18:10:58 UTC
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Ahhhhhhhhhhhh, thanks, Harry!

John
Post by Harry Lake
You can read about 10.52, which is a 'development snapshot', at
http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/
I am loth to try anything with a great big red warning like that
because I fear I don't possess the knowledge to get out of any
trouble it might cause. (Though I suppose restore points, or whatever
they're called, have pretty much eliminated the risks.) I am also too
lazy to keep backing up the stuff they recommend... :-(
Harry
m***@att.net
2010-04-13 13:22:30 UTC
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Post by Harry Lake
An expert will be along in a minute, no doubt. Meanwhile: I haven't
heard of these probs before (could be just me not paying attn
though). Have you checked your firewall settings?
HTH
Harry
Firewall setting in both locations haven't changed since before the upgrade.
 
Post by Harry Lake
With 10.51 I have to keep hitting the Fit to Width button to get
several sites to load completely. This was never necessary with any
previous release. Do your two machines have the same display parms?
Bart
Yes, both are set up nearly identically.  I say "nearly" because I haven't checked *all* settings, but the display params are identical.  I should compare .ini files to see what is different (that Opera thinks it knows about, anyway).  I'll try to do that when I get home tonight.
One difference that I know of is that the work machine was updated from ver. 10.1, home machine was updated from 9.5x something.
John Lewis
2010-04-13 15:40:50 UTC
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I know it's not much in the way of specific help, but try 10.52 instead. I had
quite a few crashing problems with 10.51 and the majority of them have been
fixed in 10.52. 10.52 also featured more core fixes for sites, which might help.



10.5.2 is in beta?



John

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Harry Lake
2010-04-13 17:21:38 UTC
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Post by David Hayward
I know it's not much in the way of specific help, but try 10.52
instead. I had
quite a few crashing problems with 10.51 and the majority of them have been
fixed in 10.52. 10.52 also featured more core fixes for sites, which might help.
10.5.2 is in beta?
Not even that.

Harry
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