Discussion:
[OU] Several browsers
Terry Talim
2010-06-22 15:36:29 UTC
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Is it not good to have more than one web browser installed on a pc? Can I
install Opera if I have IE installed?

Terry Talim
*Email:* ***@gmail.com
*Sites: *http://kidbirthday.net/ and http://kidfriendlyarea.com/
Ledgem
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
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unknown
2010-06-22 15:42:53 UTC
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You can have as many browsers as you like. There are no problems with that.

David
Post by Terry Talim
Is it not good to have more than one web browser installed on a pc? Can I
install Opera if I have IE installed?
Terry Talim
*Sites: *http://kidbirthday.net/ and http://kidfriendlyarea.com/
Jack Hill
2010-06-22 16:12:01 UTC
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I had IE, Firefox and Opera installed on my PC for many years without any
conflicts. There are some sites that don't support Opera, and in those
cases I'd generally copy the URL to IE and proceed. No problem.
Post by Terry Talim
Is it not good to have more than one web browser installed on a pc? Can I
install Opera if I have IE installed?
Terry Talim
*Sites: *http://kidbirthday.net/ and http://kidfriendlyarea.com/
Bart Hansen
2010-06-23 12:33:24 UTC
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Same here, only I use Chrome as a second browser. It is much better
with Gmail, and with several other sites. For me, 10.5 has been a step
backward, e.g., ofter needing to use Fit to Width, and the Widget
fail.

Bart
Post by Jack Hill
I had IE, Firefox and Opera installed on my PC for many years without any
conflicts.  There are some sites that don't support Opera, and in those
cases I'd generally copy the URL to IE and proceed.  No problem.
Jack Hill
2010-06-23 17:09:12 UTC
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Have you found Chrome to be widely supported by various sites?
Post by Bart Hansen
Same here, only I use Chrome as a second browser. It is much better
with Gmail, and with several other sites. For me, 10.5 has been a step
backward, e.g., ofter needing to use Fit to Width, and the Widget
fail.
Bart
Post by Jack Hill
I had IE, Firefox and Opera installed on my PC for many years without any
conflicts.  There are some sites that don't support Opera, and in those
cases I'd generally copy the URL to IE and proceed.  No problem.
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Bart Hansen
2010-06-23 21:22:57 UTC
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Yes. I can't recall having any problems with it.
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Post by Jack Hill
Have you found Chrome to be widely supported by various sites?
Post by Bart Hansen
Same here, only I use Chrome as a second browser. It is much better
with Gmail, and with several other sites. For me, 10.5 has been a step
backward, e.g., ofter needing to use Fit to Width, and the Widget
fail.
Bart
Post by Jack Hill
I had IE, Firefox and Opera installed on my PC for many years without any
conflicts.  There are some sites that don't support Opera, and in those
cases I'd generally copy the URL to IE and proceed.  No problem.
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Jack Hill
2010-06-24 01:25:14 UTC
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Well, for example, I get an email message from my bank whenever there is a
transaction recorded, but Opera doesn't decode it. I have to open the
message in Mac Mail (or Outlook if I'm using Windows) in order to read
it. I've had other similar problems with Opera mail as well.
Post by Bart Hansen
Yes. I can't recall having any problems with it.
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Post by Jack Hill
Have you found Chrome to be widely supported by various sites?
<snip>
Post by Bart Hansen
Post by Jack Hill
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Hallvord Steen
2010-06-30 12:22:34 UTC
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Post by Jack Hill
Well, for example, I get an email message from my bank whenever there is
a transaction recorded, but Opera doesn't decode it.
Hi Jack,
have you reported this problem to Opera earlier? It would be interesting to know what Opera (or the bank!) is doing wrong..
HR
Jack Hill
2010-06-30 17:47:29 UTC
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It's not just the bank. And Opera doesn't have any way to report
anything, so far as I know, since they discontinued their premium
support. Their message I got when they dropped the service was to submit
inquiries to the group.
Post by Hallvord Steen
Post by Jack Hill
Well, for example, I get an email message from my bank whenever there is
a transaction recorded, but Opera doesn't decode it.
Hi Jack,
have you reported this problem to Opera earlier? It would be interesting
to know what Opera (or the bank!) is doing wrong..
HR
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Rodger A Headifen
2010-07-01 01:44:42 UTC
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Hi Guys,

When you find a faulty web site Go 2 the Opera Help Menu and select
"Report a site problem" this should help solve these problems. :)
It's not just the bank. And Opera doesn't have any way to report
anything, so far as I know, since they discontinued their premium
support. Their message I got when they dropped the service was to submit
inquiries to the group.
Post by Hallvord Steen
Well, for example, I get an email message from my bank whenever thereis
a transaction recorded, but Opera doesn't decode it.
Hi Jack,
have you reported this problem to Opera earlier? It would be interesting
to know what Opera (or the bank!) is doing wrong..
HR
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Kind regards

Rodger

"Jesus is the life"
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* http://www.keytothekingdom.com
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Jack Hill
2010-07-01 01:58:11 UTC
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Thanks, Rodger. Sounds like a good idea; I wasn't aware of that
function. Only, I just now tried it, twice, and nothing happened. Nada.
I'm not sure this would warrant a bug report, but maybe it'll come to
that. What do you think?

On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:44:35 -0700, Rodger A Headifen
Post by Rodger A Headifen
Hi Guys,
When you find a faulty web site Go 2 the Opera Help Menu and select
"Report a site problem" this should help solve these problems. :)
It's not just the bank. And Opera doesn't have any way to report
anything, so far as I know, since they discontinued their premium
support. Their message I got when they dropped the service was to submit
inquiries to the group.
<snip>
Post by Rodger A Headifen
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Alan & Sally
2010-07-01 03:54:18 UTC
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HI,

Same here. Using Opera 10.60 build 8402 on G5 Mac with OS 10.5.8. Help button is slow to respond - 3-4 seconds (Widget button is also slow) - and then when I click on the "Report a Site Problem ..." button nothing happens.

Alan

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Post by Jack Hill
Thanks, Rodger. Sounds like a good idea; I wasn't aware of that
function. Only, I just now tried it, twice, and nothing happened. Nada.
I'm not sure this would warrant a bug report, but maybe it'll come to
that. What do you think?
On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:44:35 -0700, Rodger A Headifen
Post by Rodger A Headifen
Hi Guys,
When you find a faulty web site Go 2 the Opera Help Menu and select
"Report a site problem" this should help solve these problems. :)
It's not just the bank. And Opera doesn't have any way to report
anything, so far as I know, since they discontinued their premium
support. Their message I got when they dropped the service was to submit
inquiries to the group.
<snip>
Post by Rodger A Headifen
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Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
Jack Hill
2010-07-01 04:18:32 UTC
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Mmmm.... Sounds like a reportable bug to me.
Post by Alan & Sally
HI,
Same here. Using Opera 10.60 build 8402 on G5 Mac with OS 10.5.8. Help
button is slow to respond - 3-4 seconds (Widget button is also slow) -
and then when I click on the "Report a Site Problem ..." button nothing
happens.
Alan
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Post by Jack Hill
Thanks, Rodger. Sounds like a good idea; I wasn't aware of that
function. Only, I just now tried it, twice, and nothing happened.
Nada.
I'm not sure this would warrant a bug report, but maybe it'll come to
that. What do you think?
On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:44:35 -0700, Rodger A Headifen
<snip>
Post by Alan & Sally
Post by Jack Hill
<snip>
<snip>
Post by Alan & Sally
Post by Jack Hill
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Rodger A Headifen
2010-07-01 04:29:26 UTC
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Hi Jack,

Remember it only works while your surfing the web on the buggy site :)
Post by Jack Hill
Thanks, Rodger. Sounds like a good idea; I wasn't aware of that
function. Only, I just now tried it, twice, and nothing happened. Nada.
I'm not sure this would warrant a bug report, but maybe it'll come to
that. What do you think?
On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:44:35 -0700, Rodger A Headifen
Post by Rodger A Headifen
Hi Guys,
When you find a faulty web site Go 2 the Opera Help Menu and select
"Report a site problem" this should help solve these problems. :)
It's not just the bank. And Opera doesn't have any way to report
anything, so far as I know, since they discontinued their premium
support. Their message I got when they dropped the service was to submit
inquiries to the group.
<snip>
Post by Rodger A Headifen
--
--
--
Kind regards

Rodger


"Jesus is the life"

* http://www.bible.ca
* http://www.keytothekingdom.com
* ***@paradise.net.nz

Grasshopper LLC Publishing - http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows
Jack Hill
2010-07-01 06:01:34 UTC
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On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 21:29:32 -0700, Rodger A Headifen
Post by Hallvord Steen
Hi Jack,
Remember it only works while your surfing the web on the buggy site :)
Wrong. It doesn't work on any site, buggy or otherwise.
Rodger A Headifen
2010-07-01 10:37:13 UTC
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Sorry thats not correct, I was able to open 5 tabs of different web sites
and the "Report a Site problem" was able to be accessed from the Help menu.
Post by Jack Hill
On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 21:29:32 -0700, Rodger A Headifen
Post by Hallvord Steen
Hi Jack,
Remember it only works while your surfing the web on the buggy site :)
Wrong. It doesn't work on any site, buggy or otherwise.
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Kind regards

Rodger


"Jesus is the life"

* http://www.bible.ca
* http://www.keytothekingdom.com
* ***@paradise.net.nz

Grasshopper LLC Publishing - http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows
Joel Kellner
2010-07-01 10:51:27 UTC
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My experiences are similar: I'm using Opera version 10.54, Build 8334 on a
Mac mini running Snow Leopard version 10.6.4 and what I'm about to describe
has never occurred on previous Opera versions.

I can only review new Gmail in this Opera version. Whenever I try to send
new e-mail, Opera collapses and re-loads. Whenever I delete an e-mail, Opera
collapses and re-loads. Whenever I try to empty my spam or trash
folders, Opera collapses and re-loads.

I'd love a solution.

All the best, all the time,
Joel Kellner<>***@gmail.com
"There is absolutely no inevitability as long as there is a willingness to
contemplate what is happening."




On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 21:29:32 -0700, Rodger A Headifen <
***@paradise.net.nz> wrote:

Hi Jack,
Post by Rodger A Headifen
Remember it only works while your surfing the web on the buggy site :)
Wrong. It doesn't work on any site, buggy or otherwise.
Rodger A Headifen
2010-07-01 22:28:34 UTC
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Hello Joel, There's a new version 10.60 maybe it could help solve your
problems ??
Post by Joel Kellner
My experiences are similar: I'm using Opera version 10.54, Build 8334 on a
Mac mini running Snow Leopard version 10.6.4 and what I'm about to describe
has never occurred on previous Opera versions.
I can only review new Gmail in this Opera version. Whenever I try to send
new e-mail, Opera collapses and re-loads. Whenever I delete an e-mail, Opera
collapses and re-loads. Whenever I try to empty my spam or trash
folders, Opera collapses and re-loads.
I'd love a solution.
All the best, all the time,
"There is absolutely no inevitability as long as there is a willingness to
contemplate what is happening."
On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 21:29:32 -0700, Rodger A Headifen <
Hi Jack,
Post by Rodger A Headifen
Remember it only works while your surfing the web on the buggy site :)
Wrong. It doesn't work on any site, buggy or otherwise.
--
Kind regards

Rodger


"Jesus is the life"

* http://www.bible.ca
* http://www.keytothekingdom.com
* ***@paradise.net.nz

Grasshopper LLC Publishing - http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows
Jack Hill
2010-07-02 00:52:32 UTC
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I installed 10.60 and finally I got the site problem window open. Only,
it doesn't work on emails, which maybe I ought to have mentioned earlier
to avoid confusion. My problem is that emails from my bank are blank, and
contain only this message:
Warning: While decoding this file Opera encountered errors.
Anybody know how I could get instructions from Opera re how to overcome
this error? It's the same on my Opera for Window, BTW.

On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 15:28:39 -0700, Rodger A Headifen
Post by Rodger A Headifen
Hello Joel, There's a new version 10.60 maybe it could help solve your
problems ??
Post by Joel Kellner
My experiences are similar: I'm using Opera version 10.54, Build 8334 on a
Mac mini running Snow Leopard version 10.6.4 and what I'm about to describe
has never occurred on previous Opera versions.
I can only review new Gmail in this Opera version. Whenever I try to send
new e-mail, Opera collapses and re-loads. Whenever I delete an e-mail, Opera
collapses and re-loads. Whenever I try to empty my spam or trash
folders, Opera collapses and re-loads.
I'd love a solution.
All the best, all the time,
"There is absolutely no inevitability as long as there is a willingness to
contemplate what is happening."
On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 21:29:32 -0700, Rodger A Headifen <
Hi Jack,
<snip>
Post by Rodger A Headifen
Post by Joel Kellner
Wrong. It doesn't work on any site, buggy or otherwise.
Ledgem
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
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Jack Hill
2010-07-02 18:36:10 UTC
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No, the "reply" page is also blank, not even the error message appears.
But, as I may have said before, the email reads fine in Mac Mail, so
there's some glitch in Opera Mail; I've tried all the various applicable
options for viewing images, etc.
Post by Hallvord Steen
Hi Jack,
I've been having this problem with certain emails as well, although
sometimes the email is just blank with no warning message. It's been
going on for quite some time now - I think since version 10 was
introduced.
I'm not sure if it'll be helpful for you, but I've found that with the
"blank" emails I can read the contents. Simply reply to the email, and
the contents of the email appear in the quoted content. In my case, I'm
fairly certain that the emails are HTML, but in the "reply" they become
plain text only. If your emails are very heavy on the HTML then you may
just end up with a jumble of code.
It'd be nice if Opera would fix this, among other things...
Have a nice weekend all,
David
Post by Jack Hill
I installed 10.60 and finally I got the site problem window open. Only,
it doesn't work on emails, which maybe I ought to have mentioned earlier
to avoid confusion. My problem is that emails from my bank are blank, and
Warning: While decoding this file Opera encountered errors.
Anybody know how I could get instructions from Opera re how to overcome
this error? It's the same on my Opera for Window, BTW.
On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 15:28:39 -0700, Rodger A Headifen
<snip>
Post by Hallvord Steen
Post by Jack Hill
<snip>
<snip>
Post by Hallvord Steen
Post by Jack Hill
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Rodger A Headifen
2010-07-01 04:32:24 UTC
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Hi Jack,

I've just tested it on my bank web site, not that there's any prob, but it
gets ready for the report back to Opera, all ok here.

maybe a reboot and try again is required ???
Post by Jack Hill
Thanks, Rodger. Sounds like a good idea; I wasn't aware of that
function. Only, I just now tried it, twice, and nothing happened. Nada.
I'm not sure this would warrant a bug report, but maybe it'll come to
that. What do you think?
On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:44:35 -0700, Rodger A Headifen
Post by Rodger A Headifen
Hi Guys,
When you find a faulty web site Go 2 the Opera Help Menu and select
"Report a site problem" this should help solve these problems. :)
It's not just the bank. And Opera doesn't have any way to report
anything, so far as I know, since they discontinued their premium
support. Their message I got when they dropped the service was to submit
inquiries to the group.
<snip>
Post by Rodger A Headifen
--
--
--
Kind regards

Rodger


"Jesus is the life"

* http://www.bible.ca
* http://www.keytothekingdom.com
* ***@paradise.net.nz

Grasshopper LLC Publishing - http://www.pagestream.org
PageStream DTP for Amiga, Linux, Macintosh, and Windows
Jack Hill
2010-06-26 19:56:30 UTC
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My Opera 10.54 for Mac crashes or freezes every few minutes sometimes.
Other times it will run for hours. I rarely have this problem with
Windows, even when I have 20 or more tabs open. Can anybody suggest the
reason for this? I know that Opera has instructions for determining the
cause of crashes, but I haven't been able to locate the files, maybe
because I'm new to Mac.
==Jack
John Lewis
2010-06-22 17:10:34 UTC
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Post by Terry Talim
Is it not good to have more than one web browser installed on a pc?
Can I install Opera if I have IE installed?
You can install Opera even though you have IE. I have and I normally use Opera.



John

***@clara.net
22/06/2010
Joel Kellner
2010-06-22 23:08:36 UTC
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*I have Mozilla, Opera, Safari and Chrome all on my Mac mini, each with its
own home page.


All the best, all the time,
Joel Kellner<>***@gmail.com
"There is absolutely no inevitability as long as there is a willingness to
contemplate what is happening."*
unknown
2010-07-02 12:14:34 UTC
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Hi Jack,

I've been having this problem with certain emails as well, although sometimes the email is just blank with no warning message. It's been going on for quite some time now - I think since version 10 was introduced.

I'm not sure if it'll be helpful for you, but I've found that with the "blank" emails I can read the contents. Simply reply to the email, and the contents of the email appear in the quoted content. In my case, I'm fairly certain that the emails are HTML, but in the "reply" they become plain text only. If your emails are very heavy on the HTML then you may just end up with a jumble of code.

It'd be nice if Opera would fix this, among other things...

Have a nice weekend all,
David
Post by Jack Hill
I installed 10.60 and finally I got the site problem window open. Only,
it doesn't work on emails, which maybe I ought to have mentioned earlier
to avoid confusion. My problem is that emails from my bank are blank, and
Warning: While decoding this file Opera encountered errors.
Anybody know how I could get instructions from Opera re how to overcome
this error? It's the same on my Opera for Window, BTW.
On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 15:28:39 -0700, Rodger A Headifen
Post by Rodger A Headifen
Hello Joel, There's a new version 10.60 maybe it could help solve your
problems ??
Post by Joel Kellner
My experiences are similar: I'm using Opera version 10.54, Build 8334 on
a
Mac mini running Snow Leopard version 10.6.4 and what I'm about to
describe
has never occurred on previous Opera versions.
I can only review new Gmail in this Opera version. Whenever I try to
send
new e-mail, Opera collapses and re-loads. Whenever I delete an e-mail,
Opera
collapses and re-loads. Whenever I try to empty my spam or trash
folders, Opera collapses and re-loads.
I'd love a solution.
All the best, all the time,
"There is absolutely no inevitability as long as there is a willingness
to
contemplate what is happening."
On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 21:29:32 -0700, Rodger A Headifen <
Hi Jack,
<snip>
Post by Rodger A Headifen
Post by Joel Kellner
Wrong. It doesn't work on any site, buggy or otherwise.
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